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		<title>Introduction to Betting Exchanges</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[note] Article from Juicestorm Betclub. [/note] A guide to using betting exchanges for the complete novice. Learning how to use a betting exchange is essential if you are going to do matched betting. These look completely different from an ordinary bookie and can be quite daunting at first, although in reality once you grasp the concept they are extremely easy to use. Like bookmakers, betting exchanges often offer free bets to new customers. Please do not rush off to open an account at a betting exchange until you have found out how to take advantage of these. Differences between exchanges and bookies Betting exchanges have several significant differences from ordinary bookmakers. Probably the most important is that you are not betting against the bookmaker, but against another person with the opposite opinion to yours. You can bet on something either to win or to lose. The betting exchange makes its money from charging commission on bets, not by providing the odds as normal bookies do. It is essential to understand the way this works &#8211; odds are provided by other customers and you can only take the money that is there. You can queue for more or for specific odds, but there is absolutely no guarantee that you will get what you want. You can cancel or move bets as long as they have not been matched &#8211; once matched they are fixed and you can&#8217;t cancel them. You can, however, place an opposite bet to effectively cancel something out. ...]]></description>
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<p><strong>A guide to using betting exchanges for the complete novice.</strong><br />
Learning how to use a betting exchange is essential if you are going to  do matched betting.  These look completely different from an ordinary  bookie and can be quite daunting at first, although in reality once you  grasp the concept they are extremely easy to use.</p>
<p>Like bookmakers, betting exchanges often offer free bets to new  customers.  Please do not rush off to open an account at a betting  exchange until you have found out how to  take advantage of these.</p>
<p><strong>Differences between exchanges and bookies</strong><br />
Betting exchanges have several significant differences from ordinary  bookmakers.  Probably the most important is that you are not betting  against the bookmaker, but against another person with the opposite  opinion to yours.  You can bet on something either to win or to lose.   The betting exchange makes its money from charging commission on bets,  not by providing the odds as normal bookies do.  It is essential to  understand the way this works &#8211; odds are provided by other customers and  you can only take the money that is there.  You can queue for more or  for specific odds, but there is absolutely no guarantee that you will  get what you want.  You can cancel or move bets as long as they have not  been matched &#8211; once matched they are fixed and you can&#8217;t cancel them.   You can, however, place an opposite bet to effectively cancel something  out.  Unlike bookies, betting exchanges do not care if you bet on every  selection in the same event or back and lay the same thing.</p>
<p>There are other minor differences, most importantly some of the rules  for betting on different sports are not the same as the bookies.  This  can lead to difficulties when laying off a bookmaker bet at an exchange in situations such as a mid-match retirement in  tennis, when you can lose both sides of your matched bet if you are  unlucky.  This is why you are advised to stick to football for matched betting until you  understand the implications of these rules.</p>
<p><strong>Odds</strong><br />
At a bookmaker you will often be offered the fractional odds or their  decimal equivalent, and if the odds change the difference is quite a  large amount, eg 9/4 (3.25) will drop to 2/1 (3.0).  At a betting  exchange the odds are displayed as decimals and  have standard &#8220;tick&#8221;  sizes (although these may differ slightly between the different  exchanges), typically 0.01 intervals at very short odds, rising to 0.02,  0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1.0, 5.0 etc as the odds get progressively bigger.   For the example quoted, you are likely to be able to bet or lay at  3.0, 3.05, 3.1, 3.15, 3.2 and 3.25.  Also the odds are much more fluid  at a betting exchange than at a bookmaker, they  generally move rather  faster and can go up or down or into reverse with  no apparent logic as  people place their bets.   In general the nearer you get to the start of  the event the more volatile the odds become.  Betting exchanges also  give people the option to back and lay in play on some events.  The odds  in play are extremely unpredictable and bets are subject to a delay  before they are placed, making in play matched betting or arbing  extremely difficult.  You are advised to avoid this except in  exceptional circumstances (eg a free bet which can only be placed in  play) and even then you need to be experienced and confident before you  try it.  Inexperienced matched bettors are advised to look for bets at   least a couple of hours before the event starts, as the odds will be  more  stable, allowing you to take your time and use the spreadsheet  without pressure.</p>
<p><strong>Commission</strong><br />
Betting exchanges charge commission, usually on your winnings (not on  your stake, like the old betting tax used to do), and usually  starting    at 5%.  This needs to be factored into any calculations before you  place your bet.  The back odds at the exchange may look bigger than the  bookies, but are they really after 5% has been removed?  Similarly if  you are trying to make a profit from arbing, taking higher odds at the  bookie and laying lower odds on the exchange, commission can mean that  the lay odds at the exchange are higher than you think.  This is one of  the reasons why, when matched betting, you need to use a spreadsheet to  work out the correct amount to lay, otherwise you can get a nasty  surprise if your lay bet wins.</p>
<p><strong>Backing and Laying</strong><br />
Commission aside, a back bet on an exchange works in the same way  as a  back   bet at a bookmaker.  A lay bet is a little more difficult to     understand because the concept is less familiar.  If I back £25 at 11.0  (10/1)    and it wins, I win £250.  If it loses I lose £25.  If I lay  £25 at 11.0    exactly the opposite happens.  If it loses I win £25, and  if it wins I    lose £250.  You can therefore immediately see that  laying is very  much   more risky than backing if you do it at high  odds, because you  can lose   much more than your stake.  The amount you  can lose (in this  case  £250)  is called your liability.  When matched  betting you will almost always be placing lay bets on the exchange, and  it is important to understand that although your lay stake might be  £25, you need to have enough money in your account at the exchange to  cover the liability, since this is what you can lose.  If the funds are  not there the exchange will not allow you to place the bet.</p>
<p><strong>Liquidity</strong><br />
Liquidity is a complex term, the correct definition revolving around the  effect your bet has on the movement of the market.  However, in simple  terms you can think of liquidity as being a measure of the amount of  money which is being bet on that event.  In general the bigger events  such as premiership football and UK racing will have much more liquidity  than obscure football leagues and races in Australia or America.  You  can assess this by looking at the amount matched, and at the amounts of  money shown below the odds on each selection:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/liquidity1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2793" title="liquidity1" src="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/liquidity1.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="241" /></a><br />
Screenshot 1 &#8211; Tottenham v Liverpool</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/liquidity2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2794" title="liquidity2" src="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/liquidity2.jpg" alt="" width="661" height="242" /></a><br />
Screenshot 2 &#8211; Aves v Trofense</p>
<p>These 2 screenshots are for football matches played on the same day, an  hour apart.  The first is a high profile premiership game with plenty of  liquidity (over £600,000 matched on this market).  The second is a  lower league Portugese match with very low liquidity (only about £3,200  matched).  It is immediately apparent that there is much more money on  the premiership match, with thousands available to match at each price,  while the Portugese match has big gaps between the offered back and lay  odds on each selection and single figure sums on many prices.  Remember  you can only take what is there &#8211; if you were to bet on Aves in the  second of these and the £32 at 2.52 was taken before you could place  your lay, there would be no guarantee that you could match out at  anything like a decent price.  If for some reason the £3000 on Spurs  disappeared while you were lining up your bet (unlikely), you have  another £7000 to play with at 2.2.</p>
<p>There are 2 good reasons for avoiding obscure, low liquidity events.   The first is the very real risk that you will not get your bet matched  at the odds you want, and the second is that bookies are more likely to  notice you and  regard you as a matched bettor if you go for an obscure  football match because it has the best odds.  They are very sensitive  nowadays and can limit your account if you bet on the &#8220;wrong&#8221; thing.</p>
<p><strong>Placing Bets</strong><br />
To place a bet you click on the odds that you want to take.  If you  click on the right hand (higher) side, you will be placing a lay bet, if  you click on the left hand (lower) side you will be placing a back bet.   You then enter the stake and when you are happy you submit your bet.   You can adjust the odds when you have loaded a betslip.  If you place a  back bet at lower odds or a lay at higher odds than are currently  available, you will get the best odds at the time.  If you ask for odds  which are higher (for a back) or lower (for a lay) than the current  price your money will be placed in the queue, and matched on a first  come first served basis.  If your bet is unmatched you will see your  money appear on the opposite side to where you clicked:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/before-bet.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2796" title="before bet" src="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/before-bet.jpg" alt="" width="660" height="224" /></a><br />
Screenshot 1 &#8211; before I bet</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/after-bet.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2797" title="after bet" src="http://www.juicestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/after-bet.jpg" alt="" width="663" height="218" /></a></p>
<p>Screenshot 2 &#8211; my unmatched bet</p>
<p>Here you can see in the top screenshot that there is no money on  Trofense at 4.0.  I place a back bet by clicking on one of the blue  prices, then changing the odds to 4.0.  When I submit my bet you can see  in the second screenshot that my £2 is now waiting at 4.0.  Similarly I  could click on a purple price, lower the odds and queue for a lay bet  at a lower price.  This is not recommended for matched betting &#8211; you can  never be sure which way the odds will move.  However it is useful if  you want to trade &#8211; see below.</p>
<p><strong>Betfair</strong><br />
The biggest and most useful betting exchange is Betfair.  For simplicity  all screenshots in this guide are from Betfair.  Other betting  exchanges operate in a similar way, although the colours and layout may  be slightly different.</p>
<p>Because Betfair is so important, and is a complex website designed for a  variety of types of customers, on <a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/betclub/">Betclub</a> we have  detailed guides  to  setting up  and using Betfair for matched betting.    These show you how to place a bet and what happens when it is matched  or unmatched.<br />
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Other Exchanges</strong><br />
The second biggest exchange is Betdaq and its &#8220;skin&#8221; Betmate, which is  the same thing in a different colour.  Betdaq can be useful both for the  occasional market which Betfair does not have, and as a backup in case  Betfair isn&#8217;t working for some reason.  Confusingly Betdaq shows its  back odds in pink and lay odds in blue &#8211; you need to remember that the  lower ones are money available to back and the higher ones to lay.</p>
<p>There are other exchanges, including WBX and ibetx (most betting sites  with x at the end are exchanges) and bookmakers are beginning to jump on  the bandwagon and open an exchange themselves.  The main problem with all of these,  including to some degree Betdaq, is the lack of liquidity.  Everyone  knows that Betfair is the biggest exchange, and therefore they tend to  go there first, so Betfair has most of the liquidity.  This situation is  self perpetuating &#8211; it is extremely hard to break into this market  because you need a load of liquidity before anyone will look at your  site.</p>
<p><strong>Trading</strong><br />
Not everyone using Betfair is placing just one side of a bet.  One of  the things you can do is take advantage of the market movements to back  and lay at different times at hopefully advantageous odds, and pocket  the difference.  This is not as easy as it sounds &#8211; you are backing your  judgement about the way in which the market will move.  It is possible  because commission is charged on your overall profit on the market, not  on individual bets.  Being able to queue for a price is extremely useful  in trading, and various types of software have been produced which  enable you to place bets faster and more efficiently than you can on the  exchange websites.  We have plenty of videos and guides to trading on different  sports at <a href="http://www.juicestorm.com/betclub/register.php">Betclub</a> in the trading part of the Help and Guides section and also in  the trading section of the Strategy Library.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After yesterday's balls up I'm trying again tomorrow with Jon over at <a href="http://talkbet.typepad.com/">TalkBet</a> at the same time of 1.00pm UK when, God willing, we'll be live. We’ll be chatting about his Powerstats which are up and down a bit in terms of profit. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After yesterday&#8217;s balls up I&#8217;m trying again tomorrow with Jon over at <a href="http://talkbet.typepad.com/">TalkBet</a> at the same time of 1.00pm UK when, God willing, we&#8217;ll be live. We’ll be chatting about his Powerstats which are up and down a bit in terms of profit. He’ll also be telling us about his background in the markets and how he makes a profit using Betting Exchanges. We’ll also find out if he’s back from the brink of disaster with his in play football application which has managed to get shafted for over £700 in the last 2 days! And lots, lots more. It promises to be a great show. And I’ll also be calling out InPlayMaster’s adventures as well. Will the bank blow live? Tune in and find out. </p>
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		<title>Momentum Trading</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Betting exchange markets are efficient in terms of the market %. So momentum traders crashing a price on horse A will naturally create other horses to drift and thus cause other opportunities as the market settles to near 100%. Small punters get better prices out of it. If the market is 100.5%, then they're getting a fair price on their money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betting exchange markets are efficient in terms of the market %. So momentum traders crashing a price on horse A will naturally create other horses to drift and thus cause other opportunities as the market settles to near 100%.</p>
<p>Small punters get better prices out of it. If the market is 100.5%, then they&#8217;re getting a fair price on their money.</p>
<p>Using market information is what every bookmaker does every day of the week in virtually every market he prices up. Momentum traders are doing nothing else.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t expect to get the same price on a betting exchange as you do at the bookies on every selection. That applies to every sport not just horse racing.</p>
<p>Many have noticed the lack of early priced horse racing turnover has nothing to do with momentum traders. The market has evolved and reached it&#8217;s equilibrium. People have found out that sticking larger offers up across the board costs them money overall, so they have curtailed the amounts to fit in with demand at that point in time. Horse racing suffers more than most because it&#8217;s harder to determine the correct price and because of the genuine fear of inside information. You&#8217;ll also find that most successful traders are not momentum traders and are very opinionated.</p>
<p>Traders are very keen on the economics of movement towards the market equilibrium, but what about the economics of giving away something for nothing? Informed tissue-makers (if they want an early bet in size) have in effect to give away their pricing for scant chance of being matched.</p>
<p>Of course, traders either drip-feed or have to wait until closer to the off. Is the same amount of money matched in effectively the only market as it would be in early/evolving, than late markets? Not necessarily; often, the price has moved past the point where the opinion players want to play. The winners in the fight for the late money may be predominantly technically oriented, rather than judgment-based gamblers.</p>
<p>Technical traders winning is equally merited and their strategy equally legitimate. But what about a style-neutral interface? Momentum / WOM bots can take from losers as they do at the moment (typically by some sleight that involves putting up a worse offer than is likely to be immediately available), and tissue-makers can take from losers in having them blunder into out-of-line bets? Why should penny-size traders be able to play in the early markets to the exclusion of traditional big winners?</p>
<p>The answer may be it&#8217;s the market we operate in. Late money is found to be the most accurate prediction of true outcome probabilities and the greater the late odds movement in an entrant, the higher its probability of winning. Simply, bet late and bet often.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s it from me today. Stay safe, wherever you are and good luck to you all as always.</p>
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